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IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

The revelation by Attorney General Eric Holder that elements of the government of Iran were behind a plot to assassinate the Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the United States, Adel Al-Jubier, with an explosive device in a crowded restaurant and set off bombs at embassies in Washington, D.C., takes Iranian provocation of the U.S. to a whole new level. It’s time for The U.S. to go beyond sanctions and do what’s necessary to bring about a change of government in Iran.

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53 Responses

  1. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Naval Postgraduate School Alumni

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Why not? A little more “shock and awe” and we can be done before Christmas. Then what? Its a country of 60 million run by a Islamic death cult that celebrates martyrdom.

    Posted by John

  2. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Politics on the Rocks

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Barack Obama did nothing during the summer of 2009 when the USA had a very real reason to step in and provide aid to the protesters in Iran then.

    What will he do?

    Posted by Jennifer

  3. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Naval Postgraduate School Alumni

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    I believe this is a false flag. The facts do not support Iran involvement at all. Assertions by the administration have no proof of fact. The Intelligence community doesn’t even have this “threat” in their databases – i.e. no knowledge. I am not a fan of Iran, and spent countless months off their coastline. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. There just isn’t any beyond the hand waiving.

    If I am missing something, please enlighten me.

    Posted by Michael

  4. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Naval Postgraduate School Alumni

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    I forgot to mention that this is the same Attorney General under indictment for the fast and furious gun running to the Mexican drug cartels (our government shipping military grade weapons). I am more than a little hesitant to place any credence in him or his minions.

    Posted by Michael

  5. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: The Heritage Foundation

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Military action should have been launched already. Even if it is done in the future, delay means perceived weakness. It remains deeply confusing to me why the US effectively ‘wastes time’ on relatively minor global threats while ignoring the major threats (Iran, China, and North Korea). Granted, under the Obama administration, not much is expected. But why, under Bush 43, did the US let North Korea off-the-hook, continue to pander to communist China, and diddle around with Iran?

    As well, it is not entirely truthful to separate a nation’s government from its people. The leadership of Iran is a deep threat to global freedom, but so is a substantial percentage of its population who share such beliefs. We do not have a good handle on what the percentage is of Iranians who want true freedom, peace, and democracy, but my guess is that it is far less than 50%. If it is higher, then it is up to this purported majority of citizens to show the western countries that they are serious about becoming a responsible member of the global community. Otherwise, the West should not invest any effort in ‘nation building’ and/or ‘regime change’ in this country (as one bad regime will just be replaced by another), and the West has no other option but simple – and repeated – military strikes in order to keep Iran’s military strength at a perpetual minimum (i.e., what should have been done in Afghanistan and Iraq).

    Posted by Sierra

  6. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: The Heritage Foundation

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    I am wondering if this is a “straw dog”. Is the Obama Administration trying to construct a international incident to distract the electorate away from their failed economic and domestic programs.

    What proof do they offer besides their own pronouncements? I know if I was planning a terrorist attack, I would start my search by contacting Islamic used car salesmen, seems logical!
    The Obama Administration can rattle their sabres about Iran but can do little and has done little to combat Iran.

    It seems peculiar that Eric Holder goes before the cameras on the same day he is getting called before Congress about “Fast and Furious”.

    Kind of reminds me of when a aspirin factory in the Sudan was a National Security Threat under a previous Democratic Administration.

    Does anyone else notice that the Obama Administration likes to “dump” bad news or questionable policies on a Friday afternoon!!!!

    Posted by Hal

  7. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: The Heritage Foundation

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    I don’t disagree, and Mark Levin noted this on Friday regarding the sending of troops into Africa. That said, there is no doubt that Iran is a major problem that needs fixing. I’m sure the US conservatives can walk and chew gum at the same time, and fully address the Fast-and-Furious scandal, as well as stay on top of the need for action against Iran.

    Posted by Sierra

  8. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: The Heritage Foundation

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Interesting that Eric Holder produced this. Isn’t he the one who (1) wanted to grant citizen trial rights to terrorists, (2) wouldn’t take action against the New Black Panthers for voter intimidation, and (3) is now under congressional subpoena with charges of suspected perjury? And yes, “Friday surprises” and “October surprises” are the ways of political chicanery. On the Fast and Furious matter, recall that, quite some time ago, Hillary Clinton stated that drug cartels were getting their arms from the USA. Some believe the Administration was trying to prove her right as a justification to undermine the Second Amendment.

    Posted by Ronald

  9. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Naval Postgraduate School Alumni

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Even if the story is a ruse, we need to bring more than diplomacy and sanctions onto Iran for their Uranium enrichment activities. There is plenty of low enrichment grade Uranium available on the open market, so there’s only one reason that Iran wants to enrich their own Uranium=> they plan to obtain and use nuclear weapons. I agree with Ed that military intervention may be needed to avert Armageddon in the Middle East, in Israel, and here at home. These radical muslims don’t mind dying, as long as they take as many infidels down in the process

    Posted by Dennis

  10. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: The Heritage Foundation

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    I think the Iran issue is a great opportunity for conservatives to show the public that the Obama administration is actually soft on foreign policy and terrorism. The key is that they need to stay on this issue, stay focussed, and demand a military strike against Iran. The Obama administration will not conduct such a strike, of course, thereby allowing conservatives to portray this issue in their favor in the lead-up to the 2012 elections.

    Posted by Sierra

  11. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Foreign Area Officers

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    No thank you, Ed.

    Your case is neither complete, compelling, nor accounts for the U.S.’s position in the global strategic context. Now is not a time for such activities, based on the current threat and set of circumstances.

    Posted by Hank

  12. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Few in America undertand the Shia Escatology that is driving the current Iranian leadership. They want strife, discord and disorder to help set the stage for the return of the 12th Imam who will lead the Shia’s to dominant place in world wide Islamic rule. There is no peace possible with them.

    Posted by Wesley

  13. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Naval Postgraduate School Alumni

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Dennis, I agree 100%. I just suggest we know all the facts, and right now I do not believe we do.

    Posted by Michael

  14. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: The Intelligence Community (IC)

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    ‘De javu’ anyone???? Here we go again……

    Posted by Warren

  15. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Naval Postgraduate School Alumni

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Mark Bowden, the author who wrote “Black Hawk Down,” also wrote, “Guests of the Ayatolla.” It is about the Embassy seizure in 1979, and the subsequent events over the next 444 days. The book illustrates somewhat, the dysfunctional nature of Iranian internal politics. One of the reasons their acquisition of nuclear weapons is scary is that there is no clear line of authority for government action. Our attempts at sanctions have been feckless and ineffective. Direct military action makes Iran into a martyr/victim. The best move is the find a way to isolate them. Until that happens, any other course of action is just desperate reaction.

    Posted by John

  16. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: The Intelligence Community (IC)

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Okay I get it that we want to take out Iran but is the U.S. really ready for yet another war in the region ? Iran is not Iraq and the retaliation will be very real this time. Is the U.S. public ready for sophisticated attacks ? These are not bumbling jihadist wannabe’s, this is the real deal.

    Cyberwar – is the way forward.

    Posted by Mubin

  17. I can see your point, Ed – but I don’t know … kinda busy with Barry’s Alinskyite revolution right here at home.

    – Uncle Sam

    d(^_^)b
    http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
    “Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”

  18. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: The Heritage Foundation

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    And apparently Canada is now enacting sanctions on Iranian officials implicated in the alleged assassination plot: http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/18/canada-has-imposed-sanctions-on-iranian-officials-implicated-in-alleged-assassination-plot/

    Better late than never, but it is still insufficient. Military strikes are what is required. As well, Turkey should be given the ultimatum that it must also impose sanctions against Iran for these Iranian plots, or Turkey should be removed from NATO. Turkey is starting to look like a trojan horse inside our established western defence shield.

    Posted by Sierra

  19. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Calling it ‘escatology’ does not confer legitimacy… or the scent of reason to a rotting odor degrading of intelligent human value. Shia preference for the ‘necessary’ role of destruction and the rule by ignorance in their vision of holy death condemns them to the ash heap of history. Its no more worthy of civil review than facism or nazism, or any political philosophy or pseudo-religious slant on human presence. Its most articulate condemnation is posed in the ‘sacred’ intent in their acts of hostility and destruction.

    Posted by George

  20. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Well said George. I wish our political leadership understood this.

    Posted by Wesley

  21. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: The Intelligence Community (IC)

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    I feel that the US really missed an opportunity in 2009 when the Green Revolution would have had much more of a chance to take hold. We didn’t back it and now we have a regime in Iran that is much more troublesome and still firmly fixed in power.

    Posted by Cathy

  22. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: The Heritage Foundation

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    What military action would everyone suggest the United States take? Bombing? Invasion? Special Forces fomenting revolution? Naval blockade of oil shipments?

    Posted by Dan

  23. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    Yep, sounds good. All of the above applies.

    And this should not be just a US effort. Canada and the UK should participate as well, along with AU/NZ. NATO in general will balk at the efforts, given how much of continental Europe panders towards Iran.

    First targets must be all nuclear capacity, whether it is claimed ‘peaceful’ or not.

    We’ll see how far a revolution would go, though, as an argument can be made that Iran’s current rules actually do represent the wishes of the majority of their population.

    Posted by Sierra

  24. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: The Heritage Foundation

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    There was a time that an act of war started a war that ended with a winner and a loser. The loser was no longer a problem, and others learned that the winner meant business. Consider our long peace with Germany and Japan since WWII vs the never-ending war’s edge with North Korea. Is all that too simplistic?

    Posted by Ronald

  25. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Politics on the Rocks

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    I guess you support the Project For a New American Century report (PNAC-look it up; it’s online) which involves invading & occupying just about every country we disagree with, even when we can no longer afford it?!?!?!

    It doesn’t matter to you we’re doing everything possible to exacerbate already lousy relationships in the Middle East and following every illegitimate False Flag operation to justify opening up front, after front, after front?!?! Are we going to put troops, tanks, APC’s, jets, bombers on every island, every border, that Russia does not directly control?

    WHY DON’T YOU, & THE REST OF THE GLOBALISTS, PAY FOR IT OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKETS!! ME & MILLIONS OF OTHERS HERE ARE SICK OF PAYIN’ FOR IT UNDER SEVERELY DUBIOUS JUSTIFICATION!!

    From your 13 June 2011 article, in which you’re talking about the New World Order? It’s gross!! Too, it was an article divided against itself. Liberals aren’t just talking about over-extension; so are the Constitutionalists! How many of these areas where bullets are flying & men are dying & losing legs and arms, has there been a congressional declaration of war, as is

    Constitutionally mandated? Or does the rule of Law not mean anything any more? Better yet, let’s commit 100% of all our troops in CONUS, to the Middle East to change all their governments. How many people are pouring across our own borders, daily? Last I heard, over 9000, AGAIN, DAILY, from over 50 nations! Through amnesty and the vote, might THEY end up changing OUR government?

    Also, on the NWO, what you’re saying doesn’t exist, in fact, does, if you take the time to examine the piles of evidence. Or, have you, and you’re deliberately trying to mislead people? I guess my more focused question is are you dangerous, or simply ignorant? That’s okay to admit ignorance; it can be cured.

    Your website is right, up to a point; The world is waking up. But some of it’s obviously gone beyond you?

    Posted by Paul

  26. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: U.S. GOVERNMENT CONNECTIONS

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Ed, You may be correct about this being an attempt to turn the spotlight away from Holder. Diversion is a time tested tool, used very often by our leadership.

    As for the naturalized citizen, strip his citizenship, deport him, and put his name and picture on every NO ENTRY list that exists.

    Of course, the deportation comes after the trial and prison term.

    In addition, make him aware that his presence in the US for ANY reason after deportation will trigger a death sentence immediately upon confirmation of identity.

    As to the Iran government overthrow, I don’t agree with the COvert overthrow of governments.

    The political opposition in each country can do that.

    I do believe in Overt overthrow by way of
    – withholding all funding of any kind to that country and complete financial sanctions.
    – a declared war where the concept, like in WW II, is to destroy the enemy’s ability to fight.
    This means total destruction of the infrastructure, business, ports, airports, cities, farms, etc.
    Civilians will die by the thousands or hundreds of thousands, but that is war.

    No apologies or reparations are needed.

    The problem:

    Our military is currently spread too thin and has been running too hard for too long.

    Our troops and gear are being worn out at a much higher pace than was ever imagined when it was purchased.

    More importantly, the US needs to get out of every other country’s business.

    Too often, our politicians involve us in other countries for the financial benefit of businesses.

    We, the US, needs to get out of countries that don’t want us there, such as Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

    These governments should handle their own affairs, and thrive or collapse based on their actions.

    Not be financed and bribed by the US to “do what is right”.

    I were president, the US and our Foreign Aid would be out of all these countries.

    We’d save the billions (trillions?) of dollars. Then, I’d address the full UN with the following US Foreign Policy speech:

    “The US has lost too many lives through war and terrorist acts and we don’t want to lose any more.

    Each member of this council is the leader of a sovereign country.
    You and your government are responsible for the activities of ALL the people inside your borders, not just your citizens.
    Nearly every country that is represented here has an intel community for internal monitoring.
    And other countries may share additional intel on disruptive / terrorist groups in your country.
    It is your responsibility to take action to prevent these groups from causing damage or death in your country or in other countries.

    If the US or its citizens are attacked, in the US or abroad, the attack will be investigated.
    If intel definitively attributes the attack to groups trained and / or based in your country, and
    it’s known that your government was aware of the group and took little or no action,
    the US will remove that base from the face of the earth!

    It does not matter where the base is located in your country!
    Your capital, a city, a small town, farmland or a remote mountain region.
    The base will be removed from the face of the earth!

    There will have NO forewarning except this speech.
    Your government will be notified of the removal when it has been completed.
    This will NOT be an act of war against your country.
    This WILL be an act of self defense against the group that attacked the US.

    If this group is based in a city or town, many innocent people will die.
    That will be YOUR FAULT as the leader and government that failed in your duty.

    The US has no desire to destroy the smallest particle of your country but we will defend ourselves against terrorists.
    This is the US Foreign Policy on Terror.

    Any questions? ”

    Yes, I know, there would be an outcry against this idea.
    Teddy Roosevelt said it well, “Speak softly but carry a big stick”.

    Nukes were the Big Stick but now that everyone has them, it’s only a twig.

    Posted by Gary

  27. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Jen? Barak will do whatever advances communism and weakens the US. He’ll almost certainly, support all those devoted to violent overthrow of any or all legitimate governments or those sympathetic to or trying to work with the US. After reading Alinsky’s “Rules…” I got a copy of 1 of Guevara’s books. Obama’s following it!!! I wish 1 could post pictures here; I have a good 1 of, in Obama’s Houston campaign office, behind the receptionist, a picture of the Cuban flag, w/ Che super-imposed over it; WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS TELL US?

    One of the most important points in the book I’m reading on Che? It’s concerning relationships. In a nutshell, Che’s view is communism and the revolution first, last, & foremost!!! Indoctrination & brainwashing towards a communist/statist end is the highest thing!! Everything else, including one’s marriage, is secondary. This, I believe, is what we’re dealing with-hardened, brainwashed, fanatical communist/statists.

    Posted by Paul

  28. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MJ19Ak01.html
    Come on ed. Time to retire, admit you’re wrong, or get educated! It makers me mad every time I read this sophomoric, knee-jerk headline, it’s so bereft of intelligence, for a man of your obvious years. When the story’s already been proven to be severely problematic, why don’t we say someone had a 500 lb nuclear device in their shoes, or up their butt?
    WE CAN, UNCATEGORICALLY, NO LONGER AFFORD TO BLOW THE ENTIRE WORLD UP & OCCUPY IT UNDER FALSE PRETENSES!!!!

    If any response is forthcoming, be careful. I was in the service and I do have an understanding of propaganda, disinformation, & counterinsurgency.

    Posted by Paul

  29. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Politics on the Rocks

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    There are mounting signs that the Israeli government may think the timing is right for an attack on Iran, with growing alarms inside Israel about alleged Iranian progress on building a nuclear bomb – and with President Barack Obama fearing loss of key Jewish political support in 2012 if he doesn’t go along.

    Posted by David

  30. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    If I were President, I would go fishing…

    Posted by George

  31. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    One small problem…Russia. The Russians have strong economic ties to Iran and are unlikely to be too happy with any US intervention and they would block any UN resolutions. Go it alone is not a good military or diplomatic strategy.

    Posted by David

  32. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    As Iran is Persian and not Arabic, I think we can count on behind the scene support from the Arab, Sunni world.

    Posted by Wesley

  33. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Iraq is making overtures to Iran which is not pleasing US interests in the area.

    Posted by David

  34. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    If the US could ever buy an ally, then Iraq would not have been a bargain basement sale item. WHY have we armed our enemy?

    Posted by George

  35. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    Sadly, US current leadership is in bed with promoting Iranian influence and spreading conflict in the Middle East. Our policies have not changed since the Cold War, proxy conflicts are still preferred over direct engagements with forces that posses Nuclear Weapons. So, the Iranians with the support of Russia have secretly armed a proxy rough state with Nukes in the event the US decides to engage them as a trap to punish US dominance.

    That is in the least how I view the situation, just an opinion based on experience.

    Posted by Kirk John

  36. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    George, I’ll bet every president would love to do that or something else relaxing.
    Unfortunately, they get precious little time to themselves while in office.
    Why do you think they age so quickly ?

    Posted by Gary

  37. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    Its sarcasm Gary.. Sarcasm. Of COURSE, anyone with any job MUST be chained to the desk by a logger chain, yes? Of course, they are property of their employer TOTALLY until they die of exhaustion as they seek some scrap of perfection equal to public requirement, surely? DUTY is after all the sum essence of value in the effort of human beings no matter how weak and limited, surely? After all is said and done; after all the proposals are written and read and all the arguments thought and sunk; after every hand is shaken and every committee formed and dissolved and when the last good night is said and the shades are drawn and the door is shut and locked and the lights are out and the blanket is pulled and the first ZZZZZZ becons…. your wife will murmur into your ear: Is the dog still in the living room downstairs? UP you go to fetch the little pet and OUT it goes into the wet, cold, night while you go through all the steps necessary to shut down the house yet AGAIN while half asleep and after having taken that certain little sleeping pill and yet ANOTHER nice toddy before hoisting up the stairs yet again…. where she waits asleep for she is YET your wife and honor is part of being there…. but the pill has taken hold and so you sink to the steps and fall asleep…. while dreaming about sitting on your favorite chair propped just SO against the rail of the pier where you often find company with nature and the fish. Has my sarcasm met with a little sincerity … yet? Surely? Perhaps? The only REALLY unfortunate thing about life is that people seem to forget that the really important things sometimes include going fishing. Sometimes it IS at the top of the short list of duties one simply MUST do. Duties? Yes, duty to YOURSELF. You can only serve the JOB with so much of your life and too often too much at that…. Save a little bit for your self. You are worth that much respect. Give it to yourself sometimes when others will refuse it to you all the time…It could be the only raise you get for agony of your investment to get the job done to please your employers. So, why not go give yourself a raise? Go fishing. Its not the job that ages a President. Its the polls. Public opinion takes away more from the Chief than it gives. It takes and takes and takes and takes… Now there is something absolutely worthy of contempt… however, polls cannot be ignored. Nor must they become the master.

    Posted by George

  38. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    Invade Iran? Really? How are we supposed to pay for such a reckless policy? I am guessing Neo-cons think they can charge this one to a national credit card like the Bush administration did in Iraq.

    Posted by Brian

  39. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Frank,

    All one need do when faced with unpleasantness is to ignore it. LinkedIn is a venue for free speech among rational individuals who, hopefully, have the capability of rising above the limits of an emotional response.

    It is absurd to leave sensibility the slave to degrading principles. The opinions of others need not be taken as a challenge and does not place an obligation on one to react … as if to reset a scale that has become unbalanced by a divergent perception of reality.

    While I respect your appeal for group topic focus most appropriate to your personal values, it is perhaps a bit much to expect others to honor this request. Your reluctance to participate will be noted with respect (by me), but there is no obligation to respond/react to any remark that makes you uncomfortable. I agree it is prudent not to incite reaction from those who have no control of their thoughts and actions; those most in harness to cultish control, or by domination of an ideology. However, ignoring a threat does not make it go away and caving in to fear merchants only gives them inspiration to become even more disagreeable.

    Posted by George

  40. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    No excuse George.

    I do not wish to debate this nor will I.

    Frank.

    Posted by Francis Xavier

  41. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

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    Francis has a point that the discussion here is institutional and that it is institutions that are ultimately infringing on the rights of individuals to partake of their rights privately and publicly.

    Yet, I find it fascinating that Francis brings up so many things such as Sharia Law and the Islamic sectarianism, which in the eyes of Islam is nothing less than political parties battling over the dominance of their faith. However, like the Jewish faith, one can only be Sunni or Shiite by birth. The most amazing fact that none of Francis’ argument has anything to do with this discussion. Because no one brought those issues up.

    It is simply a liberal attempt to shut down someone else’s discussion by playing a race card falsely accusing others of prejudice when nothing to that end has been mentioned by any members until Francis chimed in.

    It is effectively reverse psychology to establish (US) liberal dominance over an internet site like LinkedIn, to deny political speech (as protected under the US Constitution) by playing the currently popular legal “offended” card to something that is simply not present.

    I also find it interesting that the only thing that actually triggered Francis’ arguably weak attempt to paint everyone as prejudice comes solely on the grounds from my final remarks which was by all definitions a disclaimer to reduce tensions that such a hot topic might produce.

    It should be clearly pointed out that it is clever arguments such as the one posted by Francis that is the Liberal tool to support Islamic Jihad war fighters in the US and around the world by attempting to protect the Sharia Legal institutions right (under Koranic Law) to practice domestic violence, rape, gang rape, slave trafficking, kidnapping, as protected under the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution by both the freedom of speech and religious practices clause. Oddly enough, by double reverse psychology given that Francis labeled us a prejudice for the sole point of shutting down this discussion, Francis defended those supporting Jihad whom openly us prejudice, profiling, and bias as targeting tools to injure and harm innocent people, which in turn makes Francis the most prejudice person solely by the liberal stand point that he must use prejudice to defend prejudice so as to enable those who commit violent crimes against the Human race can do so without fear of legal reprisal.

    A most novel attempt to be-smirch an intelligent argument. Almost entertaining.

    Posted by Kirk John

  42. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Interesting discussions. Someone mentioned values. Seems to me we should be targeting their younger generation. Make them question their values – do they really want to live in a hard core, intolerant regime? Help them determine their destiny. Pour it on. I suspect we would be surprised. Iranian youth act like westerners. They want to look like westerners. In my day we called it psyops. We never did put that much effort into it and when we did, we never seemed to follow it all the way through. We need to learn patience. Not just for this but many other foreign affairs issues. Just a thought.

    Posted by Rick

  43. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-clinton-libya-20111023,0,488730.story

    Here is something relevant to chew on… Iraq’s neighbor will eventually do something to their own new democratic neighbor, its almost inevitable.

    Frank.

    Posted by Francis Xavier

  44. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Last point of contention. This is NOT an UN-official board. Shut your mouth about others religious view points as how they relate to DoD, religion and DoD are not congruent.

    Frank.

    Posted by Francis Xavier

  45. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    DOD religion is war. Just another expensive human error.

    Posted by George

  46. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    You know, after reflecting on the priorities of GOD, County, Corps I am redacting my earlier statements. I think something needs to be done to bring about a necessary chage of government in Iran.

    Frank.

    Posted by Francis Xavier

  47. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Well said Frank.

    However, I still believe that this discussion is still important not so much what should be done, but do we understand why. More over also what are the options available. You posted an article that clearly showed the Middle East Community is keenly aware of the problem Iran presents, but are we sufficiently aware of the Islamic cultural movements under way?

    The Arab Spring is one such mystery that I believe holds more perils for Humanity than hope because Islam is ripe with usurpers who would gladly turn one movement into another to further the Islamic Global Caliphate and the institution of Sharia Law every where.

    Even in the US today, there are communities where traditional local police are banned from policing because of the Islamic community within it by Court Order. This is a subsequent usurpation of Constitutional Law on US soil all under the provision of the 1st Amendment. I have read the Constitution a few hundred times and no where in it does it say that one amendment, or one clause within the amendment can nullify the remainder of the Constitution.

    Iran is but one state out of a couple dozen that Islamic states that harbor ill will toward the west. Islam is attempting to perpetrate unto the world what the US did to the Native American Indians with the goal to the very same ends that the Native American Indians now suffer.

    Nonetheless, ours is not to say what exactly should be done. War maybe the only option, but it may not be the only solution. Sadly, no solution that has never been articulated can ever be executed.

    Posted by Kirk John

  48. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    I’ve never understood it. Ishmael is the root, Hebrew mind you, as is the line of Muhammad. I just don’t get it and really never have. Maybe you can help me understand the hatred for the bloodline of their own Prophet. It doesn’t seem to be the text, I’ve conversed on common ground, the Torah. It seem like the preaching of it, just like our domestic “snake handlers” and “branch Davidians”. I like what Rick DeLauter wrote, it seems like the next generation isn’t looking for something to grab onto like the last was…

    Posted by Francis Xavier

  49. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    I can tell you that in a Torah conversation about Abraham, the response regarding sending the child with the maid-servant out into the desert was “how could he have done such a thing”. I didn’t really respond at the time, now I see that man and anyone with that concept truly does not believe that GOD will keep his word. Where are we now? Making accusations? Someone is wrong here, the Torah is the basis of the Quoran, mind you lunar and solar years differ most of the fundamentals are there… Someone is clearly wrong. I have read articles where Moses has a (pbuh) marking every time his name is mentioned, I later found out it meant “peace be unto him”. I’m sure no Muslim will agree with the name of GOD being what it was made into through Jewish translation, however NO ONE can disagree with GOD’s name YHWH, forever and for all generations. It’s not Jehovah, that was a translation of JHVH which is YHWH in a different dialect, and GOD is certainly not Jesus otherwise Jesus wouldn’t have prayed to his Father in Heaven, GOD. See what I’m saying? How many Christians are taught that Jesus is GOD, this is also clearly wrong, where in the third chapter of Exodus it clearly states YHWH, forever and for all generations. The same preachers preaching Jesus is GOD and be like Jesus who was a RABBI mind you which means “master of the Torah”. We have similar problems without the “capitalization” of “politics” but they sure do “capitalize” it, Pentecostalism is the fastest growing religion and they are completely wrong with Jesus is GOD. The only document on the planet that blends the three is the Trinity Doctrine, Mans writing, not considered divinely inspired, however all Protestants like to forget if it weren’t for the Vatican they wouldn’t even have a text, it would still be in Latin hidden in the Catholic Church so they choose the word Godhead and imply the Trinity Doctrine without mentioning it. You do know that Protest-ants still protest Catholics… Just like Jesus would right? The Jewish Rabbi. Also PLEASE keep in mind there is not a single white person in the Bible at all… Gentiles, Yes, that is what Christ did differently he dined with the tax collectors, etc. spread the word so that I may meet my Father. We should be very clear if we are going down this path gentlemen.

    Posted by Francis Xavier

  50. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Frank,

    The differences and deviations between the faiths relative to our reality is not the source of the solution. I wish it were. But the plain truth is that neither the Holy Bible nor the Quoran will solve this problem.

    I’ll try to explain it simply. Both Holy books are but God’s business cards. Consider, God is believed to be the Creator of all things. Both books are about 1200 to 1400 pages thick. Yet both Holy books cover the same parables so they are redundant. Your beliefs, mine and the whole word are but a simple set of assumptions on the ideas of what is right and wrong. However, the depth of the parables enter about 6 to 7 layers before they tap out no further.

    The problems we face today are 20 and 30 layers thick and are only barely addressed. Yet throughout both Books God tests his children with challenges to question their faith, their duty, their capacity to be responsible and their capacity to overcome.

    Our test is more than what is there. The parable that most closely applies to today is the Tower of Babel. Wherein God so the organization and projects, programs and plans to build a great structure and in turn gave each person an individual tongue to deny the unit, organization and structure. To effectively address our current problems, we must first resolve the riddle as to why. Ultimately, God favors individuality as be the resolution of the Tower of Babel. To that end the US has greatly achieved it. Yet, with our individuality we are also achieving the very same disorder and chaos that followed the failure of the Tower of Babel. So, in both order and chaos to the extreme yields the same results. Then obviously a middle ground is the desired place where both order and chaos can co-exist. Such as in the case the lamb lays with the lion.

    The most important thing we need to realize that is that humanity is but one thing in the eyes of God regardless of all the differences and deviations we create. Islam is for great order while the west is for individuality. I think the conflict is there not in our differences but in the preference for our direction as per greater unity and solidarity under a single faith, or greater diversity under multiple faiths.

    If we are to overcome, we must exceed that which God has provided and write our book of wisdom based on the wisdom provided by God.

    Posted by Kirk John

  51. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    Please recognize these “business cards” have the SAME cast of persons. They are not different until after the first 5 books, the Torah, the law. The word “parable” is a new covenant word spoken by Christ in reference to the seed falling on rock, weeds, and good soil. The Torah is the LAW, it is VERY clear, NO thinking needed. If you have leprosy, put blood on a toe, etc. Construct… gopherwood… cubits… Please lets be very very clear here.

    Posted by Francis Xavier

  52. Reposted from LinkedIn says:

    LinkedIn Group: Department of Defense

    Discussion: IT’S TIME TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO BRING ABOUT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT IN IRAN

    With Iran having a pretty tightly controlled media it is difficult to really understand what is going on politically and socially. Iran is surrounded by countries with plenty of instabiltity. It would be interesting to get an insiders view of the influences it neighbrors have on Iran. I would think Iran’s neighbors would be a little nervous about Iran’s nuclear ambititons especially the countries that are down wind.

    Posted by David

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